• Sestze has removed AD2 from GGG
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  • I've said I've been neutral all the time Ses and I'm going to keep being neutral. I'm not jumping on either side of this train because I find both sides silly. It's silly for Karbine making this thread (even though he probably didn't expect shit to hit the fan like this) and it's silly for accusing death upon people and generally insulting them THIS much. Also when did I [i]ever[/i] state anything about other servers? Considering you're now accusing me of saying that other servers don't have this problem.
  • Okey dokey. Ses. Calm the fuck down or get the fuck out. You crossed the line when you started attacking neutral parties, and I for one won't stand for it. Thanks. [editline]edit[/editline] let me rant a bit more on the matter... If you were a good admin, you'd have been able to keep your head about all this, yes? Your inability to do so has shown me and everyone else that your as inept at problem solving maturely as you make Karbine out to be. You've stooped to a level of dickishness you're preaching against in this thread, and it's one of the least intelligent moves I've seen out of an admin of such a big server. How about you grow up, calm down, and settle the matter in a calm and collected manner like normal adults in charge do, eh?
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  • [QUOTE=Sestze;34746296]That sounds totally sensible, that's what I'll do... wait no I won't because that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life. "don't play gmod for a week and totally ignore your server and let us do whatever on it" [B]actually it was "take a week to chill the fuck out and let people grab their dupes and have them chill out too", but you missed the point[/B] Dude, shut the fuck up. All of your comments thus far on this have been worse than karbine's. [B]I aim to please[/B] At best, you've been throwing out useless comments about your ex girlfriend (which, while I congratulate you on feeling the touch of a woman, doesn't fucking matter [B]wow, I totally did not see random insults about manhood coming, because we know that's definitely not a cliche...[/B]) or suggesting some incredibly stupid theories or giving absolutely terrible advice [B]yeah, like, swallowing your pride, calming down, taking thing logically, and listening to what other people have to say?[/B]. Normally I'd shy away from suggesting anyone on the internet kill themselves, but for you I'll make an exception. Please, for the love of god, stop posting and hang yourself. [B]Yeah, I'll get right on that[/B] I'm being lectured on how to run my own server by a dude that only plays single player, and changed his name almost daily because people hated his dumb ass that much. Seriously, am I the only one that remembers his escapades in the contraptions subforum where he was sockpuppeting with "bluereaper" while posting dumb shit all the time? [B]Yes, because changing "red" to "blue" would really throw people off...they'd never catch on, muahahahahaa[/B] [i]This is the quality of individual I have to deal with. These are the people telling me how to run my shit.[/i] [B]Thank you, and have a lovely day.[/B] Unless you being retarded [B]I left that honor up to you [/B]is some sort of long-standing meta troll that's existed for the past 3 years or so. God I only hope. Please tell me you are trolling. [B]If I were trolling this would be an even bigger shitstorm. My original advice to back off, get your head straight, let everyone chill out, and stop raging is fantastically sound. I'm not even able to comprehend how that can upset you. Did you go off your medication?[/B][/QUOTE] [editline]17th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=MrWhite;34747103]Okey dokey. Ses. Calm the fuck down or get the fuck out. You crossed the line when you started attacking neutral parties, and I for one won't stand for it. Thanks. [editline]edit[/editline] let me rant a bit more on the matter... If you were a good admin, you'd have been able to keep your head about all this, yes? Your inability to do so has shown me and everyone else that your as inept at problem solving maturely as you make Karbine out to be. You've stooped to a level of dickishness you're preaching against in this thread, and it's one of the least intelligent moves I've seen out of an admin of such a big server. How about you grow up, calm down, and settle the matter in a calm and collected manner like normal adults in charge do, eh?[/QUOTE] [img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img][img]http://www.facepunch.com/fp/ratings/tick.png[/img]
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  • I suppose you're right. Opening up GGG to the FP community was a mistake in the first place, I think. Any sort of statement along the lines of "You're fucking stupid" is "you're raging! why are you raging? you mad bro?" I'm pretty damn calm about this, I just feel that i haven't torn into the bad parts of this community recently.
  • I haven't read one sentence of yours that was directed towards another individual that looked calm at all. Either you're not calm, or you need to use less "mad" words. Either way, you've definitely made a few new enemies on here (not that you really care about it, though).
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  • Eh, think what you want. I don't think I should be posting in this thread anymore. Testing goes on as scheduled, redreaper's suggestion was still fucking stupid, and karbine is still permabanned.
  • I'd still like to ask you before you leave why you accused me of saying that other servers don't have adv_dupe2 problems like GGG has. Have I said anything about that anywhere? Simply wondering if I have short term memory and can't remember anything anymore.
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  • TBH ses the only reason why theres hardly any server traffic is the people from FP. So don't act like opening it up to us was a bad idea, we were the players playing on there the most.
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  • [QUOTE=Sestze;34747270]I'm pretty damn calm about this[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sestze;34727005]"shut your whore mouth"...your hilariously stupid statement...It's commonly acknowledged that AD2 destroys CPU when you're pasting shit, to pin the blame on something else simply because you don't like the criticism is fucking stupid...I'm not going to treat you as if you're a special snowflake...That seems, once again, fucking stupid. If you don't quite understand the undercurrent of this post, let me lay it out for you. You're fucking stupid.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sestze;34727570]I managed to go an entire conversation without telling him to eat a dick[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sestze;34746296]that's the dumbest shit I've ever heard in my life....Dude, shut the fuck up. All of your comments thus far on this have been worse than karbine's....Normally I'd shy away from suggesting anyone on the internet kill themselves, but for you I'll make an exception. Please, for the love of god, stop posting and hang yourself.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sestze;34746648]holy shit I can't believe how unreasonably angry I am about that post. It's like a super-condensed post of pure shit. A torrent of absolute crap that is neither grounded in fact nor reality and somehow manages to offend all five senses at once. I taste nothing but bile and feel nothing but contempt for you...Please stop posting and kill yourself...you are a terrible human being and I would feel no remorse whatsoever if a car careened off the road into the side of your house, opening up your "lair" to sunlight and you to unimaginable pain. As you lie there, gasping for air in a futile attempt to breathe after your ribs have been shattered and puncture your lungs like a pin cushion, the driver would stumble out of the car in a fugue, trip over, gaze upon your face and vomit. There you lie, stomach acid slowly dissolving your eyes as blood fills your lungs and your skin burns in the sun like a piece of wax paper exposed to a candle. You completely worthless piece of horse shit. I can't think of anything more pointless than your posting, and I can't imagine why you'd even bother to grace our presence with your vile, inane spectacles about what aught to be done to a community you do not control and are not a part of.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sestze;34699187]Before you answer, no, fuck you, you're wrong. The answer is "no, it's not". Why? Because I fucking run GGG.[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sestze;34706945]you're a dumb motherfucker because of how many vertices the map has[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Sestze;34720374]You are so goddamn [i]dumb[/i]. Did everyone stop taking their meds today or something?[/QUOTE]
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  • [QUOTE=Sestze;34746976]SOME stuff is wrong? This whole entire thread is a bitchfest about me removing a stupid fucking tool to test something on the server. Every successive post I see from mouthbreathers like karbine and redreaper and [i]even you, Jackpody[/i] make me that much more annoyed about the whole process. You don't have any general information beyond "well these other servers that are completely unlike GGG run it perfectly fine". We have completely different objectives. [b]I'm looking for an uptime of greater than six hours, something the other servers (Waxx, Almost There, Killbox, etc.) can't do because of their, often times, misguided user base.[/b] I was going to be more harsh, but they at least have the benefit of [i]not knowing[/i]. [i]You[/i] dumb motherfuckers should know, so why the hell should I pull any punches? Jesus christ, and you act as if I should be pandering to you, a complete slave to democracy where I wait hand and foot upon all of you dumb faggots for eternity while you get all your ducks in a row. Why should I beg forgiveness from a bunch of spiteful children who use bastardized chips of mine to build things, use my server to build them on, and then yell at me when I decide to make a decision for their net benefit? You spoiled, rotten little shits. Does this mean I'll stop doing things for the good of the server? No, I still play there too, and I happen to build shit so [i]obviously[/i] I'm going to try to make it work for my sake. AD2 has a few useful features that I'd love to use but [i]obviously I had some trouble with it on the server, so that's why it's gone[/i]. This monumentally obvious fact has somehow escaped your grasp, and you're lashing out at me as if I owe you something.[/QUOTE] In what way are our users misguided? I'd much rather deal with lower uptime than an asshole of an admin.
  • Admittedly you're all being fucking imbeciles towards Sestze. Instead of bitching, and throwing your shit around like apes over the fact he removed an tool to see if the tool was the crash causer, you could have perhaps waited for him to explain it? Or asked in a nicer manner perhaps? Rather than this thread being made and you sperglords making him out to be the bad guy when [B]he has a server to run[/B]. Protip: running a server means making sure it doesn't crash, removing a tool to test if it is crashing the server is part of that. Let him do his fucking job. He said that him and other admins are willing to zip up your dupes and hand them to you on a one to one basis, there is no need for the addon to go back on the server until a solution is found, and your dupes are safe. Perhaps instead of complaining when something changes, take some time to find out why and chill your asses down before flipping shit over it. There's usually a perfectly good reason for things to change on a server. Fuck, with the way his players act, I can see why Sestze seems to be enraged all the damn time. It's like looking after fucking 6 year olds. Shit. [editline]18th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Kenny_;34748083]In what way are our users misguided? I'd much rather deal with lower uptime than an asshole of an admin.[/QUOTE] Part of being an admin is not taking shit from your players. You might make enemies, and look like you hate everything and everyone. But if you are doing your job and keeping the server uptime good, then fuck that. People who actually give a toss will know you aren't a raging cunt as long as your players are being morons.
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  • It's possible to not take shit from players without insulting everyone you come into contact with. There are a few morons in this thread, but nothing has come close to deserving this kind of reply: [quote]holy shit I can't believe how unreasonably angry I am about that post. It's like a super-condensed post of pure shit. A torrent of absolute crap that is neither grounded in fact nor reality and somehow manages to offend all five senses at once. I taste nothing but bile and feel nothing but contempt for you...Please stop posting and kill yourself...you are a terrible human being and I would feel no remorse whatsoever if a car careened off the road into the side of your house, opening up your "lair" to sunlight and you to unimaginable pain. As you lie there, gasping for air in a futile attempt to breathe after your ribs have been shattered and puncture your lungs like a pin cushion, the driver would stumble out of the car in a fugue, trip over, gaze upon your face and vomit. There you lie, stomach acid slowly dissolving your eyes as blood fills your lungs and your skin burns in the sun like a piece of wax paper exposed to a candle. You completely worthless piece of horse shit. I can't think of anything more pointless than your posting, and I can't imagine why you'd even bother to grace our presence with your vile, inane spectacles about what aught to be done to a community you do not control and are not a part of.[/quote] Sestze, have you considered seeing a therapist about these anger issues?
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  • Perhaps unfortunately, when running a server one is somewhat forced to pander to their players, even if they are completely wrong. Servers are not nations, and any control over the playerbase is an illusion. You cannot own a community, a community is a social binding that develops between those who play together in the form of friendship and acquaintance. As a server or "community" owner, one only owns the conduit for a community. It is completely possible, and in fact, easy, for the userbase to find a new server and administration, to set up their own, or to vanish in diaspora. There is only so much you can do. Removal and testing still strikes me as perfectly reasonable, and I'm not sure why it strikes anyone else as wrong. Unfortunately, it still [i]does[/i]. I'm just glad I'm not in Sestze's position.
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  • I own and administrate the Engineering server of Almost-There. Just figured I'd throw in my two cents here. I don't see what all this fuss is about. Sestze has a job to do. He has to make sure his server runs well and is fun. But with this issue he comes to an impasse. People want the server stable so they can build reliably, They also want this tool that seems to be the best in current build duplication. Problem is that you can't have both. And until you can he has to make the best of it. Karbine was banned from our server more than once for being rude and telling owners and admins how to their jobs. He's always been egotistical and uncouth. I see the same thing happening here. Sestze might have reacted aggressively, wouldn't you? GGG is HIS server that HE runs. So what if he has a short fuse, after dealing with fucking morons all the time so would you. I stand by his decision because it's the most logical for his player base. And I suggest you all take a real look at the situation. I may not strive for up time because I listen to what my players want. yes I may sacrifice stability for that but not one of my players complain. Why? because we are a community and we don't care what you think of us it's about having fun. And we do. Also Karbine you should learn to be more professional. making a public scene about an issue isn't a good way to get what you want
  • [QUOTE=Sestze;34746976]SOME stuff is wrong? This whole entire thread is a bitchfest about me removing a stupid fucking tool to test something on the server. Every successive post I see from mouthbreathers like karbine and redreaper and [i]even you, Jackpody[/i] make me that much more annoyed about the whole process. You don't have any general information beyond "well these other servers that are completely unlike GGG run it perfectly fine". We have completely different objectives. I'm looking for an uptime of greater than six hours, something the other servers (Waxx, Almost There, Killbox, etc.) can't do because of their, often times, misguided user base. I was going to be more harsh, but they at least have the benefit of [i]not knowing[/i]. [i]You[/i] dumb motherfuckers should know, so why the hell should I pull any punches? Jesus christ, and you act as if I should be pandering to you, a complete slave to democracy where I wait hand and foot upon all of you dumb faggots for eternity while you get all your ducks in a row. Why should I beg forgiveness from a bunch of spiteful children who use bastardized chips of mine to build things, use my server to build them on, and then yell at me when I decide to make a decision for their net benefit? You spoiled, rotten little shits. Does this mean I'll stop doing things for the good of the server? No, I still play there too, and I happen to build shit so [i]obviously[/i] I'm going to try to make it work for my sake. AD2 has a few useful features that I'd love to use but [i]obviously I had some trouble with it on the server, so that's why it's gone[/i]. This monumentally obvious fact has somehow escaped your grasp, and you're lashing out at me as if I owe you something.[/QUOTE] Still neutral on this whole situation and I still don't want to stir up an issue like this but while reading this through again, I realized how wrong you were so many times and I want to point that out so you stop thinking of me as a 'dumbfuck', like you describe. Let's break it up, shall we? [quote=Sestze]karbine and redreaper and even you, Jackpody make me that much more annoyed about the whole process. You don't have any general information beyond "well these other servers that are completely unlike GGG run it perfectly fine".[/quote] Again, when and where did I say [i]anything[/i] about servers at all? Why do I make you annoyed for not agreeing with your whole "let's wish death upon RedReaper"? You really need to calm down a bit, Ses like RedReaper pointed out some posts above. You need to slow down and take stuff to a more professional matter were you don't constantly insult people. [quote=Sestze]Jesus christ, and you act as if I should be pandering to you, a complete slave to democracy where I wait hand and foot upon all of you dumb faggots for eternity while you get all your ducks in a row. Why should I beg forgiveness from a bunch of spiteful children who use bastardized chips of mine to build things, use my server to build them on, and then yell at me when I decide to make a decision for their net benefit? You spoiled, rotten little shits.[/quote] No, I'm not trying to act as you should be 'pandering' me in any way, stop making these false accusiations. I'm simply not agreeing with your decisions Ses and I'm pointing that out, which you seem to pick up in a hostile way. I don't use [i]any[/i] of your stuff to make my stuff off, I make my own stuff up and get some help from friends. You know, not everyone uses your stuff. May feel a bit amazing but yeah, we don't. You make great stuff Sestze but we're not entitlied to use your stuff. And in all honesty, I believe most of the mech builders on GGG have their own E2's or a heavily modefied version of yours (from my knowledge). Hell, some people even use just hydraulics and it still looks good. And I'm not yelling at you, Ses. I'm not asking you for forgiving any of us for removing adv_dupe2, you keep making these false accusiations. [i]Some[/i] people may think they 'need' to be forgiven for you removing adv_dupe2 and they need to cut it out, it's your server and your decisions and if it was actually causing instability on GGG then [b]it was the correct move[/b]. You just need to handle this whole situation better and you need to do it a lot more professionally without name-calling and general insults (and wishing death upon RR). [quote=Sestze]Does this mean I'll stop doing things for the good of the server? No, I still play there too, and I happen to build shit so obviously I'm going to try to make it work for my sake. AD2 has a few useful features that I'd love to use but obviously I had some trouble with it on the server, so that's why it's gone. This monumentally obvious fact has somehow escaped your grasp, and you're lashing out at me as if I owe you something.[/quote] Good and it's good to have an owner who actually cares for his community and how the server works. If it was causing trouble with the server then you did the right move by deleting it. I was [b]always[/b] aware that adv_dupe2 could cause issues, it's been doing this before. Remember that time back in December, just some days before Christmas when you accused me of being the problem and [i]I[/i] was the 'thing' causing the server to be unstable? It literally never escaped my grasp that adv_dupe2 can cause instability which is also why I said I had it sort of coming at the first page and why I didn't whine like some other people in this thread about it. I knew it was going to happen and I was prepared so I downloaded all my dupes the night before you removed the tool. [b][u]I just want to stay neutral[/b][/u] on this and get it all sorted so we can go back and have fun on GGG without having this war between the whole community (and us) but when you make false accusiations on me and how I apparently annoy you, I have to defend myself. Sestze, you can be a great owner but you need to take this issue more professionally. You should stop with all the insults and name-calling and you should be more calm about it, as a server owner should.
  • Look at this thread. How long did it take you guys to write some of the walls of text in here? What did these walls accomplish? After this thread, none of you are allowed to complain about the "decline of building", because you're doing it to yourselves. I don't visit GGG, but I like reading the WIP thread and seeing all the cool shit in there. I know one or two of you guys and I like you. You guys really going to tear yourselves up like this? Guess so. Now excuse me while I get the popcorn. [img]http://dl.dropbox.com/u/902553/Pictures/Screens/couch.jpg[/img]
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  • [QUOTE=RedReaper;34748012] A DUMB THING [/QUOTE] Your suggestion is, in fact, retarded. So much so that it flabbergasts me as to why you would even think of it in the first place. Not only is it disjointed, but it is poorly thought out as well. ' Let's say I threw adv dupe 2 back on the server for a week, and THEN LEFT AND SAID NOTHING. The server would be crashy, and I'd come back later in a week to THIS THREAD EXCEPT IT WOULD BE ABOUT CRASHES AND NOT DUPE 2 BEING REMOVED. I shit you not, it would be a thread about "FORAN LEFT GGG NOW WE CAN'T PLAY GMOD ANYMORE FUCK FORAN" or something along those lines. You don't administrate a server by leaving said server. You really should think about these things a bit more!!!!!!!
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  • [QUOTE=Toyokunari;34751958]How often do people come on ggg? Just saying.[/QUOTE] Just about daily as long as I can think of something to build. Unfortunately I haven't been able to recently. Been in a minecraft mood. Just as well I guess, considering all this. Hopped on for a bit today and worked on a UAV ish thing.
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  • Wait, the thread on SA has was archived like 6 months ago. I don't think anyone on SA even bother to take a second glance at the thread, let alone actually read the thread/join the servers.
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  • [QUOTE=Hurble Burble;34749267]Also Karbine you should learn to be more professional. making a public scene about an issue isn't a good way to get what you want[/QUOTE] Yo this is exactly what karbine wanted. karbine's thoughts as he pressed the post button: [video=youtube;PHFWpx1Y-_k]http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=PHFWpx1Y-_k[/video]
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  • [QUOTE=devonjones;34752777]Wait, the thread on SA has was archived like 6 months ago. I don't think anyone on SA even bother to take a second glance at the thread, let alone actually read the thread/join the servers.[/QUOTE] This was because we had allowed public players on to the server. SURPRISE!!!! Goons tend to not like people outside of SA because most of them are pretty goddamn dumb (or are children). E: Also it hasn't been archived, it's just a few pages back. It gets about a post or two a month.
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  • this thread is comedy gold, seeing sestze so angry after i've left the party i didn't even want this but god damn is it funny [editline]18th February 2012[/editline] [QUOTE=Hurble Burble;34749267]I own and administrate the Engineering server of Almost-There. Just figured I'd throw in my two cents here. I don't see what all this fuss is about. Sestze has a job to do. He has to make sure his server runs well and is fun. But with this issue he comes to an impasse. People want the server stable so they can build reliably, They also want this tool that seems to be the best in current build duplication. Problem is that you can't have both. And until you can he has to make the best of it. Karbine was banned from our server more than once for being rude and telling owners and admins how to their jobs. He's always been egotistical and uncouth. I see the same thing happening here. Sestze might have reacted aggressively, wouldn't you? GGG is HIS server that HE runs. So what if he has a short fuse, after dealing with fucking morons all the time so would you. I stand by his decision because it's the most logical for his player base. And I suggest you all take a real look at the situation. I may not strive for up time because I listen to what my players want. yes I may sacrifice stability for that but not one of my players complain. Why? because we are a community and we don't care what you think of us it's about having fun. And we do. Also Karbine you should learn to be more professional. making a public scene about an issue isn't a good way to get what you want[/QUOTE] yeah, I could be a dick, only because your community and I are both stubborn as shit, and I called people out when they were doing dumb things, much like sestze is doing. i didn't do this all for what I wanted, I did this for all the people who enjoy GGG. end of story.
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  • I don't even know what the hell GGG is, but I just read the entire thread because I like drama.
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  • [QUOTE=RedReaper;34741845]Makespherical is the culprit of that. Has absolutely not one fucking bit to do with AD2. I use AD2 and run Gmod in singleplayer for literally weeks on end without even a single lua error and I run the same addons as GGG. Also nobody worships karbine. He just has the habit of stating the blatantly obvious in simple words, like the Ron Paul of Facepunch. [sub]Also he's been playing since fucking forever. I remember him being on this forum when I started playing back in like 2006. The days before smartsnap and wire.[/sub][/QUOTE] hahahaha ass kisser
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  • I just want to say to sestze that i apologize for creating such a shitstorm, I did not expect sestze and everyone to react this way. Sestze, you may think I did this to troll, however I do enjoy trolling you on occasion, this was not one of them. I'm not sucking up to be unbanned or anything of that nature, I just feel bad that all of this caused everyone to go to stage 4 meltdown. I still don't like you but I do feel quite bad, and like I said to you many times (even in contradiction of myself), it is indeed just a game on the internet. AD2 will return to GGG some day, it looks like it's just a buffer problem. I still stand as trying to defend the largest portion of GGG's community, but I fought so hard because I thought AD2 might never return. I feel we both acted very childish over it. Truce?
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  • yes rate box you spineless Untermensch [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] redqueer [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] balto the wolf furry [editline]19th February 2012[/editline] FURRY DICK SUCKER [highlight](User was banned for this post ("More shitposting." - postal))[/highlight]