• Few questions about cheaters.cfg
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  • [QUOTE=dingusnin;35755066]That was on CSS, not gmod. I wonder why you think it's a shame... Good thing that Garry is in control, and not some brainless idiot.[/QUOTE] ur an alt of a permabanned [url]http://www.facepunch.com/threads/1031541[/url] [editline]hey[/editline] unless im horribly mistaken because all i did was google your steam ID and got a chatlog of someone claiming that you were ddosing gmod towers I shouldn't really extend this as the other thread was closed and I guess you proved your innocence. PM me or something if you want to reply, no use spamming this thread.
  • I think you will find I am not the only facepunch user in my family, my brother and I do do a lot of mod work together, and often don't take in the lines we shouldn't cross. You obviously want to make a poit of of something you know nothing about. Ningaglio is not my alt, I do not have an alt, my brother does. I you want to speak to him, pm me and I will pm his user name. [editline]29th April 2012[/editline] And those claims are wrong... Stop digging in holes dug by other people.
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  • [QUOTE=dingusnin;35755399]I think you will find I am not the only facepunch user in my family, my brother and I do do a lot of mod work together, and often don't take in the lines we shouldn't cross. You obviously want to make a poit of of something you know nothing about. Ningaglio is not my alt, I do not have an alt, my brother does. I you want to speak to him, pm me and I will pm his user name. [editline]29th April 2012[/editline] And those claims are wrong... Stop digging in holes dug by other people.[/QUOTE] Well, if Ningaglio is in fact an alt of your BROTHER then you guys are both pretty dumb since he was behaving exactly like you, must just be a coincidence.
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  • Its very true that Source's banning system has a lack of control, maybe a rewrite of this system would be a good idea/feature for garry's mod (if it were possible).
  • I don't know who you are deciding who is dumb and who is not, because to be frank, I see that you are no better. My brother has an alt, and somehow the sheep on this forum who call them selves respected facepunch users decide that I am dumb. To, while I leave detective asshat to keep on find coincidences, I hope a moderator sees how users seem to team up on the smallest party.
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  • Wonderful, so from what I read, I can go back to my little lua based wallhacks that don't bypass SE2 and not worry about it. Great! :v:
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  • [QUOTE=Alex_grist;35754453]You're looking for flaws in a system that garry is intentionally keeping secret, nobody innocent has been banned yet so why not wait until that time before complaining.[/QUOTE] Looking for flaws/bugs is something I just do. My brain is weird that way. (Possibly why I'm a programmer >_>)
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  • [QUOTE=DarthTealc;35755763]Looking for flaws/bugs is something I just do. My brain is weird that way. (Possibly why I'm a programmer >_>)[/QUOTE] Garry is also a programmer so why not let him think about the flaws?
  • its funny because everyone complaining in this thread probably used sethhack themselves
  • Could server owners have the option to enable/disable this? Also if someone is found to be "hacking" could the system save a copy of the questionable code for administrators to review if it was actually a hack. For example i have some .dll's that i run client side that help me diagnose performance and client side lua. I'm afraid that by running these .dll's i will be flagged as a cheater even though they do nothing to cheat. When is someone exactly flagged as a cheater? When the system detects they are cheating SE, or what? Is it possible to explain this without revealing too much?
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  • [QUOTE=Remscar;35761714]Could server owners have the option to enable/disable this? Also if someone is found to be "hacking" could the system save a copy of the questionable code for administrators to review if it was actually a hack. For example i have some .dll's that i run client side that help me diagnose performance and client side lua. I'm afraid that by running these .dll's i will be flagged as a cheater even though they do nothing to cheat. When is someone exactly flagged as a cheater? When the system detects they are cheating SE, or what? Is it possible to explain this without revealing too much?[/QUOTE] Did you even read the thread? This about lua hacks, not anything modifying .dlls.
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  • [QUOTE=ZestyLemons;35763190]Did you even read the thread? This about lua hacks, not anything modifying .dlls.[/QUOTE] This is about modifying dll's (specifically garry's lua shared dll), not lua hacks. Did you even read the thread?
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  • [QUOTE=Hentie;35765132]This is about modifying dll's (specifically garry's lua shared dll), not lua hacks. Did you even read the thread?[/QUOTE] The percentage of people who use .dll hacks is significantly lower than those who use Lua hacks. That's the thing, like I said, all this really does is ban mainly SethHack. While that's great, it still leaves a crapload of other Lua hacks. ScriptEnforcer isn't very effective either.
  • [QUOTE=CrispexOps;35765795]The percentage of people who use .dll hacks is significantly lower than those who use Lua hacks. That's the thing, like I said, all this really does is ban mainly SethHack. While that's great, it still leaves a crapload of other Lua hacks. ScriptEnforcer isn't very effective either.[/QUOTE] I'm pretty this is supposed to detect most things trying to bypass SE
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  • [QUOTE=CrispexOps;35765795] it still leaves a crapload of other Lua hacks. ScriptEnforcer isn't very effective either.[/QUOTE] PixelRender was removed in the beta and I'm pretty sure garry was given gm_scriptenforcer.dll. Theirs a couple other public available modules out their but if this anti cheat does what it suppose to do it will result in many bans.
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  • What I don't understand is why PixelRender and Menu plugins were removed in the beta but haven't been removed in the stable release yet. I can understand not adding new features to the stable release, but if Garry is making an attempt to stop (or at least cut down on) hacking, why not do those two things in the stable release too?
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  • [QUOTE=DarthTealc;35769464]What I don't understand is why PixelRender and Menu plugins were removed in the beta but haven't been removed in the stable release yet. I can understand not adding new features to the stable release, but if Garry is making an attempt to stop (or at least cut down on) hacking, why not do those two things in the stable release too?[/QUOTE] Yeah, I've wondered why PixelRender hasn't been removed in the current retail version since it seems that 80% of people using ESP's are using it.
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  • [QUOTE=Alex_grist;35769696]Yeah, I've wondered why PixelRender hasn't been removed in the current retail version since it seems that 80% of people using ESP's are using it.[/QUOTE] That claim seems unbelievable. Could you post how you found that percentage, exactly? I'm not trying to be an ass here, but I can't see how you can throw us some numbers without explaining how ( if ) they were obtained?
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  • [QUOTE=James xX;35770679]That claim seems unbelievable. Could you post how you found that percentage, exactly? I'm not trying to be an ass here, but I can't see how you can throw us some numbers without explaining how ( if ) they were obtained?[/QUOTE] Don't be stupid. It's been known for ages that most ESP's use PixelRender. Numbers really don't matter at this point. A large number of people user ESP's that utilize it.
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  • [QUOTE=CrispexOps;35770878]Don't be stupid. It's been known for ages that most ESP's use PixelRender. Numbers really don't matter at this point. A large number of people user ESP's that utilize it.[/QUOTE] If numbers don't actually matter, why did you post the numbers you did? I know I'm getting annoyed at litle things here, but it's alot easier to say "most" or "almost always".
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  • I use SaitoHUD (by Sk89q), will that trigger a hit? It's very advanced and could possibly be considered a cheating tool
  • [QUOTE=areolop;35773747]I use SaitoHUD (by Sk89q), will that trigger a hit? It's very advanced and could possibly be considered a cheating tool[/QUOTE] [QUOTE=Goz3rr;35766941]I'm pretty this is supposed to detect most things trying to bypass SE[/QUOTE] Notice the combination of the words "Bypass" and "Scriptenforcer"
  • One question, from the ban list now does it have people who used it before or people who injected a hack from when you uploaded this anti cheat?
  • Regardless, im scared to use my .dll in fear of the ban hammer. I guess ill have to test it on a private dedicated server.
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  • [QUOTE=Remscar;35775316]Regardless, im scared to use my .dll in fear of the ban hammer. I guess ill have to test it on a private dedicated server.[/QUOTE] The way that I understand it (and it has been stated by garry) is if you're not bypassing script enforcer, you have nothing to worry about. Even if you did get banned, this isn't like a VAC ban. If you provide evidence to garry, you should be unbanned - but as I said, you do not have to worry.
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  • [QUOTE=Goz3rr;35774041]Notice the combination of the words "Bypass" and "Scriptenforcer"[/QUOTE] Hell if I know if SaitoHUD is trying to bypass SE.
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  • Great that you are doing something about SH but I know people that got banned while using SH's FOV changer because they get headaches from playing the game 30 minutes if they don't use it... Is this true?
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  • [QUOTE=Jeff2307;35776118]Great that you are doing something about SH but I know people that got banned while using SH's FOV changer because they get headaches from playing the game 30 minutes if they don't use it... Is this true?[/QUOTE] GMod has a built in FOV changer, if you're playing the game for 30 minutes and get a headache then why not do the obvious (and free) thing and take a break.