• Red light runners in Richmond (Canada) up 600 percent
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[img]http://www.vancouversun.com/news/thewest/6229832.bin[/img] [quote]The number of Richmond drivers getting caught running red lights at dangerous intersections has reached epidemic levels. Figures released by ICBC on request of the News revealed a shocking [B]1,394 local motorists were issued tickets for running red lights last year — a massive spike of more than 600 per cent from 2010.[/B] It’s understood that much of the incredible rise can be credited to the installation of more “intersection safety cameras” at accident hot spots around the city. However, [B]the five extra cameras were only put in place in November last year, indicating that the majority of the infractions happened only in the last six or seven weeks of the year.[/B] The startling figures barely raised an eyebrow with Cpl. Kevin Lin, from Richmond RCMP’s road safety unit, who sees crazy driving on the city’s roads every day. [B]“No, I’m not at all (surprised),” said Lin.[/B] “I knew that, because of the locations the cameras were placed, that it would probably produce numbers like this. “At the newer (locations) we are there regularly for collisions and those intersections are known for their problems.” In 2009 and 2010, Richmond had just four intersection cameras, with a total of 242 and 230 tickets issued respectively to drivers running red lights. Last year, the number of cameras jumped to nine after the launch of a province-wide safety program initiated by the B.C. government, police and ICBC. There were a total of 30,803 red light tickets issued across B.C. last year, a leap of around 50 per cent from the previous year, compared to Richmond’s 600 per cent increase. Aggressive driving is the main reason for the meteoric rise, according to Lin. “People simply do not want to wait for the lights,” he said. “It really hasn’t come as that big of a surprise, as intersection crashes are a huge issue in Richmond. “We try very hard to focus our efforts on those intersections all the time.” If the police catch you, it’s a $167 fine plus points on your license. If the camera catches you, it’s the same fine, but you usually escape points because it’s the registered owner who gets the slap, as opposed to the actual driver. Lin said the best advice he can give to law-abiding drivers is to be “extra cautious” and be aware that there are people who are going to take chances and not always stop when they should. But of the impatient culprits? “They will get caught at some point. They will either get caught by the cameras or by us; but they will get caught,” he added. Illegal u-turns at major intersections in Richmond are another big problem for Lin’s department. “A huge misconception in Richmond is the no u-turn at a controlled intersection, especially on No. 3 Road,” he said. “There are a few courtesy signs telling people that, but when they’re stopped by us, they complain that there wasn’t a sign. But there are no u-turns at a controlled intersection anywhere in B.C.” The figures released by ICBC also showed that the numbers of fines issued in Richmond for distracted driving — namely, being on the phone — multiplied by more than 70 per cent last year to 1,493. And the number of tickets issued for emailing or texting while driving in the city jumped to 70 from 41 in 2010. Intersection safety cameras in Richmond are at: Cambie and No. 5 roads; No. 3 and Blundell roads; Gilbert and Blundell roads; No. 3 Road at Westminster Highway; No. 5 Rd at Westminster Highway; Garden City Road at Westminster Highway; Alderbridge Way at Shell Road; Garden City and Cambie roads and Garden City Road at Alderbridge Way.[/quote] [url=http://www.vancouversun.com/news/thewest/light+runners+Richmond+percent/6309764/story.html]**SOURCE**[/url] Stay Classy, [del]Little Beijing[/del]Richmond.
"I don't know what the fuck that red light is, I'm going"
I thought it meant prostitutes...
in situations light this i can't ever see people stopping
My sister has received two tickets for speeding cameras. The "oh I couldn't stop in time" excuse is bullshit, anyone with halfway decent driving skills should know when stopping or going is the safest route, or at least be able to convince a judge that it was indeed the safest choice. In New York, and many other areas, the stop lights are 10% rounded up of the speed limit. So for a 45mph road, it takes 5 seconds for the light to switch from green to red.
Tell me that, sitting at a red light and [I]clearly[/I] seeing absolutely [I]no[/I] oncoming traffic for a mile, you've never been tempted. Tell me.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;35163908]Tell me that, sitting at a red light and [I]clearly[/I] seeing absolutely [I]no[/I] oncoming traffic for a mile, you've never been tempted. Tell me.[/QUOTE] I guess you're right, let's go home everyone, this 600 percent jump has an excuse.
[QUOTE=Andokool12;35163921]I guess you're right, let's go home everyone, this 600 percent jump has an excuse.[/QUOTE] I doubt, though, that the majority of these cases are cases such as I described. Instead, they're people running within 2 seconds of it changing, most likely. Which is [I]hardly[/I] an awful thing.
[quote]...numbers of fines issued in Richmond for distracted driving...[b]multiplied by more than 70 per cent[/b] last year to 1,493[/quote] [img]http://eagle.undo.it:8083/img/morethanseventypercent.png[/img] :confused:
...fuck the...po-...red light cameras?
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;35163908]Tell me that, sitting at a red light and [I]clearly[/I] seeing absolutely [I]no[/I] oncoming traffic for a mile, you've never been tempted. Tell me.[/QUOTE] I've actually done it before. There's one light in my town that isn't on a timer that operates on any human timescale. I hit it from the side road at three in the morning once, sat there for about two minutes waiting for it to change, got bored, looked to make sure it was safe, shrugged, and went anyway. I figured any cop with any sense of judgement wouldn't even bother pulling me over.
We're debating putting cameras like that here in Connecticut. I'm against them. In other states with them they haven't decreased the amount of crashes. In fact, they [B]increased[/B] the amount of incidents from drivers getting rear-ended from people slamming on their brakes at the sight of a sudden red light. An easy solution without cameras would just be increasing the length of the yellow light.
They had 1 in my town last year, but ended up removing it, I wish they'd add more, people drive like fucking idiots in this town. Yellow? SHIT SPEED UP! People don't use their blinkers, and no one follows the speed limit, I feel like a little old lady because I don't drive like a fucking retard.
Well, Richmond is 99% Asian, lol
My sister lives in Richmond, and it is where I grew up for a few years. The drivers there are [B]APOCALYPTICLY BAD[/B]. Driving through that city sometimes can be downright scary. The people there (which are 95% Chinese) do NOT know how to drive. They are also extremely rude and prejudiced (good luck finding work in Richmond if you're Caucasian). Combine that with the fact the city is on a mudflat and once you leave the city (which ends very abruptly) it turns into ugly farmland. Not a city I ever want to spend more than 40 minutes in. The only actual places with grass and trees are usually man-made.
[QUOTE=The golden;35169327]My sister lives in Richmond, and it is where I grew up for a few years. The drivers there are [B]APOCALYPTICLY BAD[/B]. Driving through that city sometimes can be downright scary. The people there (which are 95% Chinese) do NOT know how to drive. They are also extremely rude and prejudiced (good luck finding work in Richmond if you're Caucasian). Combine that with the fact the city is on a mudflat and once you leave the city (which ends very abruptly) it turns into ugly farmland. Not a city I ever want to spend more than 40 minutes in. The only actual places with grass and trees are usually man-made.[/QUOTE] Do you know a way to get past Richmond in to Washington, DC while avoiding Little Beijing?
[QUOTE=SaintHitler;35169399]Do you know a way to get past Richmond in to Washington, DC while avoiding Little Beijing?[/QUOTE] Go the long way through Delta? I don't know. I'm not familiar with that area. Last time I lived there I was 4 years old and when we visit my sister my dad is the one that drives.
I like how over half of the comments on the source article have been blocked by staff, so it's really the Chinese isn't it?
[QUOTE=Lamar;35169524]I like how over half of the comments on the source article have been blocked by staff, so it's really the Chinese isn't it?[/QUOTE] Richmond has a absurdly high population of mostly wealthy Chinese families. They are extremely rude, prejudiced, xenophobic, and as you can see - they have no idea how to drive. Driving in that city is just goddamn scary sometimes.
[QUOTE=The golden;35169575][B]Richmond has a absurdly high population of mostly wealthy Chinese families. They are extremely rude, prejudiced, xenophobic, and as you can see - they have no idea how to drive. [/B] Driving in that city is just goddamn scary sometimes.[/QUOTE] This is 100% fact.
"I will now call the people I am generalizing prejudiced."
[QUOTE=SaintHitler;35169399]Do you know a way to get past Richmond in to Washington, DC while avoiding Little Beijing?[/QUOTE] [quote]Richmond in to Washington, DC[/quote] [quote]Washington, DC[/quote] [quote]DC[/quote] Go east you fool. Washington here is a state. Anyways, take the Annacis Highway and Queensborough Connector to completely bypass Richmond. My friend has a story where he was driving on the Trans Canada from Chilliwack to Richmond and for the majority of the trip he was behind someone in a blue Honda. For the whole trip they were fine but as soon as they got into richmond, [highlight]BAM![/highlight] Driving went from awesome to ass. There's jsut something about Richmond completely that just makes all drivers really, really bad.
[QUOTE=Megafan;35170003]"I will now call the people I am generalizing prejudiced."[/QUOTE] You've clearly never spent any length of time in Richmond BC, let alone try to work and live there. I would otherwise agree with you, but not in this case.
[QUOTE=Hidole555;35167826]We're debating putting cameras like that here in Connecticut. I'm against them. In other states with them they haven't decreased the amount of crashes. In fact, they [B]increased[/B] the amount of incidents from drivers getting rear-ended from people slamming on their brakes at the sight of a sudden red light. An easy solution without cameras would just be increasing the length of the yellow light.[/QUOTE] People that support red light cameras say that even though you have a higher chance of being rear-ended, it's better than being T-boned by an oncoming car that's likely going much faster, so you have a less severe accident. Increasing the length of the yellow warning to not enter the intersection wouldn't really help either, people still scream through yellow lights.
Around 7AM a light operated by time and weight (Depending on time and conditions) refused to turn green. It's a 4 way light and cars came from all other 3 sections and it turned green for them but me. Mines seems to require a minimum of two cars before it turns green. Waited 2-3 minutes then said fuck it and went through.
[QUOTE=bohb;35170434]People that support red light cameras say that even though you have a higher chance of being rear-ended, it's better than being T-boned by an oncoming car that's likely going much faster, so you have a less severe accident. Increasing the length of the yellow warning to not enter the intersection wouldn't really help either, people still scream through yellow lights.[/QUOTE] You're not going to get T-boned going through an intersection a second after it turns red.
[QUOTE=Elecbullet;35170887]You're not going to get T-boned going through an intersection a second after it turns red.[/QUOTE] Yes, you can. I was witness to one such accident where some idiot was screaming down the frontage road at 90 mph and some woman ran a red light just after it turned, it was ugly. Like car exploded and burning corpses kind of ugly.
[QUOTE=bohb;35171100]Yes, you can. I was witness to one such accident where some idiot was screaming down the frontage road at 90 mph and some woman ran a red light just after it turned, it was ugly. Like car exploded and burning corpses kind of ugly.[/QUOTE] I fail to see how that could have been avoided if both cars had come in one second earlier when the light was yellow for the lady
Used to live in Richmond, everything I've been hearing about that place lately makes me feel a little bit better about moving to Ottawa.
[QUOTE=bohb;35171100]Yes, you can. I was witness to one such accident where some idiot was screaming down the frontage road at 90 mph and some woman ran a red light just after it turned, it was ugly. Like car exploded and burning corpses kind of ugly.[/QUOTE] logically why not have a "no go" period between light changes? i know some high risk intersections where i live have them, i would imagine they would be standard at every stop, except for very low traffic ones, of course
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