• Girl Pepper Sprayed by Police After Bike Crash
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[video]https://youtu.be/YjkxxDwRqlU[/video] [QUOTE=CNN]Body-camera videos of police pepper-spraying a 15-year-old girl in Maryland have touched off an uproar. Police released the two videos to the public Thursday and have defended their actions, while the girl's family and their attorney said at a news conference that the young woman had been mistreated by cops. The incident began Sunday when Hagerstown police officers received a 911 call that a bicyclist hit a car, according to police. One of the videos shows the girl walking away from police and then attempting to ride away on her bike before she was then pulled back by one officer. "Get off of me!" the girl cried repeatedly, as she struggled with the officer for several minutes before two cops lifted her up and put her in the back of a police car.[/QUOTE] [URL="http://www.cnn.com/2016/09/22/politics/maryland-police-pepper-spray-teen-girl/"]CNN Source[/URL] [URL="http://abcnews.go.com/US/wireStory/maryland-girl-15-pepper-sprayed-charged-bike-crash-42257760"]ABC Source[/URL] [URL="http://www.thedailybeast.com/articles/2016/09/22/video-white-cops-pepper-spray-black-girl-after-she-falls-off-her-bike.html"]TDB Source[/URL]
after skimming through the video, i feel like the girl put herself in a position she really didnt need to. obviously, being 15, she's fairly unaware of the standard procedures/steps one takes after being in an collision accident, but she didn't need to react so negatively and strongly. if you're deliberately resisting police and walking away while getting increasingly belligerent, don't be surprised when you end up getting sprayed in order to comply.
Wow, what a cunt.
See nothing wrong with how they handled it.
All she had to was cooperate. >Well your just blaming the victim. <Uh no she put her self in that position.
Girl Pepper Sprayed by Police After (refusing to cooperate in an investigaion for her) Bike Crash
I'm getting the impression this girl was perhaps poorly raised by shitty parents who did not teach her properly, if at all. I suppose the short-term blame does indeed fall on her, but I have a feeling the long-term blame is on her upbringing. I think even the average 15 year-old knows to not fuck with cops.
[quote]The teen was later charged with disorderly conduct, assault and [b]possession of marijuana[/b], according to police.[/quote] No wonder she didn't cooperate
Disrespectful brat. Nearly causes an accident, refuses medical treatment (being a minor they can't just let her go), disrespectful and increasingly irate as first-response try to assist her and inform her family. She escalated the situation for herself no doubt because she was afraid of being caught with marijuana. Naturally, in this day and age, rather than the parents taking responsibility for their children they shift the blame. Then there'll be the peanut gallery that will say the treatment was because she was black/biracial/had just enough melanin.
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;51106751]No wonder she didn't cooperate[/QUOTE] funny since they probably wouldn't have searched her if she did cooperate, given the circumstances
[QUOTE=Water-Marine;51106751]No wonder she didn't cooperate[/QUOTE] Thing is though, they would have never found that if she didn't act the way she did. She was being held because she was a minor and needed to be released to her parents. Anyone who says this is brutality or police corruption is an idiot, they dealt with her and gave her more chances for 15 whole fucking minutes. They didn't beat her up or resort to physical force. They sprayed her because it was the less likely to hurt her. This is what happens when you raise a kid that acts like a little shit, and this is what happens when society as a whole accepts this type of behavior. Does not matter if they pushed her in, sprayed her, or tied her legs and kept them pinned to the ground. Someone would find something to nick pick at because they're uneducated fucks who just want something to cry about. Cops acted professionally and acted within the law and reason.
[QUOTE=-Ben_Wolfe-;51106759]Disrespectful brat. Nearly causes an accident, refuses medical treatment (being a minor they can't just let her go), disrespectful and increasingly irate as first-response try to assist her and inform her family. She escalated the situation for herself no doubt because she was afraid of being caught with marijuana. Naturally, in this day and age, rather than the parents taking responsibility for their children they shift the blame.[/QUOTE] I don't think it was wrong or disrespectful to try and protect herself from insane legislation that would ruin her for having a drug as harmless (if not less) as alcohol. In particular, it wasn't wrong of her to avoid medical treatment, and I can't blame her for getting upset. I do, of course, blame her for trying to run from property damage responsibility, but in her shoes it was someone's easily repaired car against her freedom and criminal record due to MJ possession. She totally earned that pepper spray, but I don't think people should be beating her up for it on the internet. I agree that her parents should take responsibility instead of crying about the cops, but the young girl is very understandable.
[QUOTE=bitches;51106774]for having a drug as harmless (if not less) as alcohol. [/QUOTE] She's a minor. It doesn't matter if it was legal or not. She cannot be in possession of marijuana, alcohol, or even tobacco. She should not have it period. The only person that hurt her here is herself. The best part is they probably wouldn't have found it if she had just acted like a decent person.
[QUOTE=bitches;51106774]I don't think it was wrong or disrespectful to try and protect herself from insane legislation that would ruin her for having a drug as harmless (if not less) as alcohol. In particular, it wasn't wrong of her to avoid medical treatment, and I can't blame her for getting upset. I do, of course, blame her for trying to run from property damage responsibility, but in her shoes it was someone's easily repaired car against her freedom and criminal record due to MJ possession. She totally earned that pepper spray, but I don't think people should be beating her up for it on the internet. I agree that her parents should take responsibility instead of crying about the cops, but the young girl is very understandable.[/QUOTE] Whether one agrees with the legislation or not is irrelevant but being a minor in possession of any such substance is. It was disrespectful of her to tell the officers to fuck off when they're trying to help her by trying to inform her parents that she was in an accident (regardless of the severity).
I'm amazed the cops were able to keep their composure in the face of someone like that. She sure sounds like someone from Hagerstown, it's kind of a shithole all around. Bravo to those guys for showing that kind of restraint. Also, it's a smaller world than I thought. Turns out the cop she asked for was the father of an old kindergarten friend of mine. :v:
[QUOTE=bitches;51106774]would ruin her for having a drug[/QUOTE] She's still a child in the eyes of the law and she'd have probably gotten a slap on the wrist if she was caught. I knew kids all the time in high school that got caught with weed. It's not going to ruin your life. Plus, you can get juvenile criminal records sealed or expunged. As long as you don't continue to be a little argumentative shit into adulthood and keep getting arrested for minor bullshit.
my favorite part about videos like this is just the progression toward the same quote trying to walk away while being told to just stay put for a while > grabbed by backpack to stop her walking off > continue to fucking pull and wrench and yell > get picked up by several cops to take away traction > scream, writhe, and kick so hard you actually manage to break a body cam > put into car and refuse to fit into it or take your foot out of the door so they can close it while they're telling you to do so but you just keep fucking screaming "stop resisting, miss, stop resisting" [highlight]"I'M NOT [I]RESISTING![/I]"[/highlight] I heard this news earlier today but it was COMPLETELY devoid of links to these videos, just that a girl got hit by a car and ended up detained and pepper sprayed after she was put into a squad car, then left with the spray til she was picked up near 3 hours later. Felt sorry then, but context is a bitch and so is her attitude
I'd suggest schools started educating kids on complying to police orders and knowing their rights (not in a AM I BEING DETAINED sorta way, but to know when a search is justified, things like that) but that'd cause a fucking outrage Even then, it is kinda shitty they took her straight to a police station. Anyone involved in a crash is supposed to get xrays and such. [QUOTE]"I can't breathe!"[/QUOTE] That's what happens when you get pepper sprayed. [I]That's part of the intended effect of pepper spray. [/I]
Getting caught with weed as a minor isn't as fucked up and scary as people usually think. Yes, they call your parents, yes they confiscate your baggie. They don't charge you with anything, you don't even have to snitch out your dealer (I'd rather get booked than be a fucking rat to be honest). Girl is just a dumb cunt, 150% deserved.
Haha that cruiser is going to suuuuuck to drive for a while.
Looked like standard protocol to me. Shame on that 15 year old trouble maker, she's got a lot of nerve stirring up shit like that.
She gave an entire press conference about the incident lol, with media trying to portray it as her "telling her story" as though she was victim of some horrible injustice. Pretty funny to watch her read her 100% lawyer-written statement and then at the end just go "I'm done". [url]http://abcnews.go.com/US/maryland-teen-pepper-sprayed-police-shares-side-story/story?id=42293931[/url] [editline]26th September 2016[/editline] [QUOTE=latin_geek;51106845]I'd suggest schools started educating kids on complying to police orders and knowing their rights (not in a AM I BEING DETAINED sorta way, but to know when a search is justified, things like that) but that'd cause a fucking outrage [B] Even then, it is kinda shitty they took her straight to a police station. Anyone involved in a crash is supposed to get xrays and such.[/B] That's what happens when you get pepper sprayed. [I]That's part of the intended effect of pepper spray. [/I][/QUOTE] For a low-speed bicycle collision, not really. Fire looked her up and down and decided she's alright.
[QUOTE=latin_geek;51106845]I'd suggest schools started educating kids on complying to police orders and knowing their rights (not in a AM I BEING DETAINED sorta way, but to know when a search is justified, things like that) but that'd cause a fucking outrage Even then, it is kinda shitty they took her straight to a police station. Anyone involved in a crash is supposed to get xrays and such. That's what happens when you get pepper sprayed. [I]That's part of the intended effect of pepper spray. [/I][/QUOTE] Relevant. [video=youtube;mMCO79R-4mM]https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=mMCO79R-4mM[/video] Not to say the cops should have absolute authority and be free from criticism, but a society needs to respect the law and those who enforce it. If they don't get respect, they dont' respect the citizens and the whole thing deteriorates and collapses. As we're seeing in the US right now with all these groundless protests/riots.
[QUOTE=dai;51106835] and pepper sprayed after she was put into a squad car, then left with the spray til she was picked up near 3 hours later. Felt sorry then, but context is a bitch and so is her attitude[/QUOTE] I don't even get what the peanut gallery thinks she be done after she's pepper sprayed? They can't squirt some windex on her face and wipe her down. The chemicals become inert after awhile and using water and other liquids does more than harm initially. It's usually better to just bare with it for as long as you need to and wash it off later when the chemical has been rendered mostly inert otherwise it'll flare up again. Like, I know that's easy for me to say now. If you've been pepper sprayed it's absolutely fucking horrible. This woman didn't need to be pepper sprayed all she had to do was not flee an accident. Like, holy shit. Why is it that people disobey lawful orders from cops, play the stupid game, get the stupid prizes and than all the sudden the cops are horrible black-abusing KKK racists who go out for 8 hours every day specifically looking for innocent black people to harass. [editline]26th September 2016[/editline] The stupidest part of all is that police brutality happens. There are plenty of shit cops. Every time stories like [i]this[/i] one make the news it takes attention away from [i]actual[/i] police misconduct.
But the question is will the police apologist be able to tell the difference between lawful dissent and unlawful misconduct? Because I'm not sure they have that ability.
[QUOTE=CodeMonkey3;51107517]I don't even get what the peanut gallery thinks she be done after she's pepper sprayed? They can't squirt some windex on her face and wipe her down. The chemicals become inert after awhile and using water and other liquids does more than harm initially. It's usually better to just bare with it for as long as you need to and wash it off later when the chemical has been rendered mostly inert otherwise it'll flare up again. Like, I know that's easy for me to say now. If you've been pepper sprayed it's absolutely fucking horrible. This woman didn't need to be pepper sprayed all she had to do was not flee an accident. Like, holy shit. Why is it that people disobey lawful orders from cops, play the stupid game, get the stupid prizes and than all the sudden the cops are horrible black-abusing KKK racists who go out for 8 hours every day specifically looking for innocent black people to harass. [editline]26th September 2016[/editline] The stupidest part of all is that police brutality happens. There are plenty of shit cops. Every time stories like [i]this[/i] one make the news it takes attention away from [i]actual[/i] police misconduct.[/QUOTE] This shit sells now. Just like violent videogame stuff used to. That's why it's in the news all the time. Then you've got people who read only the headlines on facebook and get upset.
Would be nice if the news could not turn every little (lawful) incident into a "police brutality" news headline, there is already enough shit going on with the whole BLM thing. But who am I kidding, those news make money and get clicks so they keep coming.
[QUOTE=Mitsuma;51107716]Would be nice if the news could not turn every little (lawful) incident into a "police brutality" news headline, there is already enough shit going on with the whole BLM thing. But who am I kidding, those news make money and get clicks so they keep coming.[/QUOTE] Doesn't help when people call each other cunts for saying something out of line. Though I will say not outright shooting the girl is an improvement.
Where is the problem? Trying to flee the scene of an accident, resisting lawful detainment... Honestly a perfect example of proper use of force.
Yeah, she had it coming. That other guy (the civilian) came up to her before she tried walking away and said "you're gonna make it worse", the police pretty much said "stop doing this or you're gonna make it worse" she made it worse. Hopefully she learns from this to just cooperate with the police rather than causing a scene. But I have a feeling she won't and this is gonna turn into a big media shitstorm like usual. :v:
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